23-May-2008

Are children's films today afraid of scaring them?

Yes, the danger must be growing, 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing, any signs that they are slowing.

It was like someone drugged me and snatched me from my home, I awoke somewhere else to find David Lynch's Eraserhead playing, because it can't be the same innocent kid's film I had been watching all morning, it was disturbing and frightening and I had my hands over my eyes, peering out only to see something wish I hadn't. That was one of my strongest memories of seeing Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory as a child, but I loved it. It was something we'd always see at Christmas, it was tradition, and I'd watch it year after year, my eyes still covered at that infamous tunnel scene.

Thinking back, a lot of my favourite films as a child were often quite scary or disturbing, sometimes downright depressing, and it strikes me that a lot of those films just wouldn't be the same if they were made today. Tim Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is good example of this, it's just fairly dull compared to the 1971 version that had left so many kids cowering, and I'd say Burton's film is just going to be forgotten.

Watership Down was a children's film that was more harrowing than Schindler's List, utterly terrifying, soaked in violence, death and disturbing imagery. I don't think any film has ever had me so emotionally flogged, it was so incredibly powerful and bleak, but it has secured itself as a favourite of mine, I had it on VHS and nearly wore the tape out. It's amazing to think something for children that horrifying ever got made, but to a whole generation, it's a part of their childhood. The Plague Dogs was equally bleak and depressing, perhaps even more so as it lacked Watership Down's happy ending.

I remember reading a woman's online rants not so long ago about Spirited Away, having taken her daughter to see it, she thought the scene where Chihiro's parents turned into pigs was far too disturbing for children, so she took her daughter and left. I do get the feeling that maybe parents are getting overprotective of their children in this regard, shielding them from anything that might scare them or make them cry. Interestingly, another favourite of mine as a kid was Ron Howard's Willow, which had a scene of people being turned into pigs that absolutely scared the pants off me.

Growing up in the 80's, you'd have seen quite a few films aimed at youngsters that were outright chilling, such as Return to Oz, which wouldn't have been a favourite of mine as I've only seen it once, but it certainly left it's mark, those wheelers were the stuff of nightmares. Jim Henson's classic The Dark Crystal was suitably terrifying as well, with giant beetles, an old woman with a removable eye, a soul-draining torture chamber, it was all pretty dark stuff indeed and I loved it.

Without a doubt, one of my favourite films as a kid was Transformers: The Movie, and I was in absolute tears when Optimus Prime died. Here was my childhood hero, and I watched him die on an operating table. Animation had so much more balls back then, and it wasn't afraid to show something that could make a child have nightmares, or leave them in tears. Today, the most we can expect to see in kids films are jokes that are somewhat risque, but that's sadly about it.

Pixar are doing great things, and I really loved The Incredibles, but I've felt that they always play things very safe, being careful not to make the audience sad at any point. There's one scene in Ratatouille that I've felt really held back, where Remy was separated from his family it could have really tugged on the heart strings, but they just pushed through the moment.

I do wonder about how kids are going to turn out, because people who are in their 20's now had so much death, grief and violence introduced to them through media when they were growing up, that it probably prepared an entire generation for life's hardships. The Harry Potter films are the only ones I can really think of that'll scare some kids, and they do incorporate some rather dark themes, but I do get the overall sense that the British franchise is the last bastion of darkness aimed at young viewers, and that there's a steady move towards cencorship and mollycoddling.

A lot of people shed tears when Bambi's mother was killed, but can anyone think of a more recent children's film that had that kind of impact? That upset children so deeply? I'd dearly love to see a film that will be that memorable again. Something tells me that the upcoming Shrek Goes Fourth won't be it.

17 comments:

Joseph said...

Firstly, that picture is awesome! And you can add Chitty-Chitty Bang-Bang to the list. The child catcher gave me the chills.

thecynicalgamer said...

Finding Nemo and the end of Monsters Inc. had me a bit teary eyed on occasion :( Not full blown waterworks, but close, and I'd imagine a kid would have the same reaction.

But true, they aren't scary as such, more sad and upsetting. Can't really think of a truly disturbing scene in a recent childrens film. Nothing up to the standard of that demented Willy Wonka sequence or that damn pink elephant bit - thats just demented.

Although check out the City of Lost Children - that's pretty disturbing, and perhaps could be counted as a film one could show a child. Although maybe not.

Karl Hungus said...

Joseph - Yeah, the child catcher is pretty damn freaky.

Cynical gamer - I loved The City of Lost Children, but it was never something that was aimed at kids, it was rated R in the US, and 15's in the UK, so I doubt as many kids could have possibly got the chance to see it.

Niall O'Keeffe said...

Wow, I completely and utterly agree with you! The PC brigade around these days are terrified to scare kids in kids films. I mean... OMG think of the repercussions!

People are a touch too protective of kids feelings, to be honest. Our generation are desensitised somewhat to violence and gore because we were exposed to more of it in our youth - and that's not a completely bad thing in that it takes less to shock and disturb us now.

Totally agree on your choice of example movies (and nice one using the "There Will Be Blood" image I pointed you at ;) ) - although I've NEVER seen the original animated Transformers movie, would you believe...!

Niall O'Keeffe said...

*ahem*

When I said it takes "LESS" to shock and disturb us, above, I clearly meant to say it takes "MORE" to do so.

Silly me ;)

Karl Hungus said...

Clearly, Niall. ;)

AdamB said...

Great post. I used to like Willy Wonka, 'til I grew the patience to sit through a whole movie. It was then I noticed the "Rowers keep on rowing!!" sequence and thought - where the Hell did that come from?

I don't let my daughter watch ANYTHING, I don't censor my own choice of films when she's in the house (she's eight). Most often, she doesn't have the patience to sit through Silence of the Lambs or Se7en, but I won't turn them off if she's looking my way (with the exception of the scenes where the senators daughter is in the well).

She didn't say anything when Brundlefly pulled off his own fingernails, but clearly - and understandably - was a touch frightened of that tall skinny guy in Pan's Labyrinth.

A quick look on the shelf reveals surprisingly few kids' films, but there is one recent one which had balls. I even took her to see it when it came out and was impressed by it like crazy. That film is: Monster House. It's a kids film and yes, she had her hands over her eyes in some scenes. So there you go. There's your answer. It's not Bambi or anything, but it definately showed a lot of balls in doing what it did.

Anil Usumezbas said...

Interesting points, all worthy of a large-scale discussion. Since I'm not a parent, I don't think I'm qualified enough to understand the complexities of having a kid so I'm not sure where being protective ends and being overprotective begins. But with my current state of mind, I think I would let my children to watch disturbing imagery on screen, at least I wouldn't be the one stopping them - I'm pretty sure any kid is capable of closing his/her eyes or the television when they cannot handle what they see.

Speaking of braver child movies I simply have an obsession for The Lion King, and especially for the scene where King Mufasa dies. I wasn't even born in 1960s so I couldn't experience the effects of Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho first hand; but I think the death of the Lion King had a similar effect on me. No one was really used to seeing a likeable main character die in the middle of the film and that's one of the things that made Lion King really special.

As for more serious disturbing imagery, I saw Hannibal, The Pet Semetary as well as Robocop when I was really young, all of which had their own share of things that are hard to handle for a kid. The worst thing that happened to me was bad dreams for one night. Nothing more.

Lammy85 said...

I loved that picture.

Yeah, I look at movies I watched growing up and they are seriously disturbing in some counts. Here's what I mean:

1) Bambi-mother's death, fight with Ronno, and the forest fire

2) Pinocchio-the donkey sequence and Monstro

3) Care Bears Movie (yes, you read that right)- The final sequence when Nicholas looks especially ominous and his eyes look strange.

4) Who Framed Roger Rabbit?- When Judge Doom's eyes pop out and his voice rises in pitch.

5) G.I.JOE movie- the bug creatures and the spores and all that came with them.

Beetlejuice actually disturbed me less than any of these movies. I do think some kid's movies are playing it too safe these days.

Karl Hungus said...

Anil - Yes, the Lion King was fantastic, something very special indeed. That is probably my favourite Disney film, and you're right, it was certainly brave.

Yeah, I've also seen the likes of Robocop and other rather violent films at a young age, but I'm specifically talking about films that are for children here, so that doesn't really count.

lammy85 - Yes! That scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit absolutely freaked the wombats out of me when I first saw it.

Anonymous said...

Overall I think this was a great article except for the bit where you try and say Pixar's films don't make people cry. I remember crying in nearly all of their films to date, with the exception of maybe the last two or three.

In my opinion, the scene with Jessie recounting being tossed away by her owner as the Sarah MacLachlan song plays is absolutely heart wrenching. I haven't been able to watch the movie since it was in theaters because I get teary eyed just thinking about that scene. =p I heard Tom Hanks on NPR earlier this year and he admitted that both he and Tim Allen looked at each other with tears in their eyes at the final cut screening, so I'm not as ashamed anymore, hahaha.

But the end of Monsters Inc. also ALWAYS gets my eyes to water up, and I would say that the beginning of Finding Nemo where his mother is killed offscreen is pretty disturbing for youngsters. Okay, so maybe it's just those three Pixar films, haha.

As far as movies being scary for kids, if you consider the Indiana Jones films kids films, the endings are all kinda horrifying as a kid. Or the endings of most of the superhero movies like the Tim Burton Batman and the Chris Reeves Superman films are a little edgy maybe for a kid. But yeah, it is kinda lacking today. Man, I HATED Willy Wonka as a kid. Too creepy, lol. And I was really disappointed with the Burton one because I was like, now that I'm older I will enjoy the ridiculous amount of creepiness I can only expect Tim Burton will add to it but it played it safe to the extreme. =p

Adamb said...

I remember in primary school (that's the first six years of school) I would attempt to draw pictures of the rock crusher/mining vehicle in Total Recall. You know the scene where (spoiler) the black guy hijacks it and tries to pin Arnie and his girl up 'gainst the wall, but Arnie takes the hand drill, pushes it through the cabin of the rock crusher and into the guys head? Yeah, I tried to draw the vehicle. Specifically the actual drill bit. I thought it was a cool shape.

But anyways, I saw Terminator II several times (the first was hard to get), RoboCop (all or most of them), Total Recall (and most of Schwarzenegger's output) along with many others...

I have no point here... just in case you're wondering.

Nick said...

Heck yeah... that scene from Willy Wonka still freaks me out.

Though, I have to do it...

*ahem*

The Harry Potter books are not for children (at least after the first two books)... and especially once you get to books 5, 6, and most definitely 7.

HOWEVER, the movies cut down on so much that it's ridiculous, just so they wouldn't scare kids. Voldemort's eyes are supposed to be red, but they didn't do it because they might have scared children. The graveyard scene in Goblet of Fire was supposed to be a whole lot more hardcore (with Wormtail flailing about with blood and such after chopping his hand off)... but they really dumbed it down. And there were numerous chapters worth cut from the climax at the Ministry in Order of the Phoenix with some pretty disturbing stuff.

I dunno if you read the books, but there was a scene that, up until recently when it was confirmed, most people thought was going to be cut from the next (6th) movie... lovingly called the 'Sectumsempra' scene. And then there's the zombies not too long after it...

I just hope that the movie does it justice and keeps it really dark, because book 6 is my favorite. And let's hope they don't fudge with movie 7 and all its darkness and action...

Anonymous said...

I totally agree. Nowadays every kids-film has to have a happy ending. It always just magically turns out fine. It makes every film look the same.

A film I enjoyed very much as a kid and didn't see anyone mention: Little Nemo in Slumberland

Luke Harrington said...

Have you seen the most recent Narnia picture? The scene where the White Witch gets resurrected is nothing short of chilling.

Another one that comes to mind is The Spiderwick Chronicles...which sucked, but was very scary. (It was, for all intents and purposes, a straight-up horror flick for kids.)

I also have to take issue with you on Watership Down...the movie, like the book, was intended for adults. It's just that a lot of parents took their kids to see it, simply because it was animated. Meh.

Gemma said...

I couldn't agree more...but firstly..Shrek 4? oh dear; I had hoped it ended with Shrek the Third. But yes, images such as the death of Bambi's mother are far and few between these days which is a pity because it only agrravates this thinking that animation is 'just for kids'. I love animation and I don't think it always gets the admiration it deserves especially from cynical adults. Pixar attempts to entertain adults by the old 'nudge nudge wink wink' adult jokes, but older animated films didn't even need that.
Besides Bambi though, I do remember being quite upset when Simba's father died in The Lion King. Since then there are not many examples. I love Spirited Away but would not have thought of the pig scene as an example. It does play with dark themes however and had some amazing sequences.
It's ironic really that parents are so protective of children when they could probably see far worse more distasteful stuff on tv anyday. I know that I would rather bring a child to Spirited Away than the cheesiness of High School Musical..but then maybe I'd be only suiting myself!

kehakas said...

I think it's worth mentioning the Don Bluth films, which dared to be dark and didn't pull punches: All Dogs Go to Heaven, An American Tail, The Secret of NIMH and The Land Before Time. Sharptooth!